{"id":110,"date":"2019-02-18T18:08:36","date_gmt":"2019-02-18T17:08:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/?p=110"},"modified":"2021-06-25T16:05:54","modified_gmt":"2021-06-25T14:05:54","slug":"de-quoi-sont-les-faits","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/en\/de-quoi-sont-les-faits\/","title":{"rendered":"DE QUOI SONT LES FAITS ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube wp-block-embed is-type-rich wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"&quot;LA SIGNIFICATION DES FAITS CHANGE&quot;\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OxibmeESghI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-color has-text-align-justify has-medium-font-size has-black-color wp-block-paragraph\">Depuis un temps, je souhaitais parler de mon sujet avec Miguel Benasayag. <br \/><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Il  me semblait avoir plusieurs raisons de se saisir de ce sujet (et l&rsquo;a  fait avec beaucoup d&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat et de gentillesse, qu&rsquo;il en soit ici  remerci\u00e9).<br \/>Miguel Benasayag est philosophe et  psychanalyste. En tant que clinicien, il a pu observ\u00e9 et penser les  rapports que les humains entretiennent avec leur pass\u00e9.Mais il a \u00e9galement un autre point de vue sur la question de la r\u00e9sistance. <br \/>D&rsquo;abord,  il fait partie du collectif Malgr\u00e9 Tout, collectif li\u00e9 au R\u00e9seau de  R\u00e9sistance Alternatif. Le manifeste du r\u00e9seau reprend d&rsquo;ailleurs une  expression qu&rsquo;on retrouve dans l&rsquo;appel \u00e0 comm\u00e9morer le programme du CNR,  dont Guingouin fut un des 13 signataires : \u00ab\u00a0Cr\u00e9er, c&rsquo;est r\u00e9sister,  r\u00e9sister, c&rsquo;est cr\u00e9er.\u00a0\u00bb<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/collectifmalgretout.net\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/collectifmalgretout.net\/<\/a><br \/>Ensuite,  Miguel Benasayag est franco-argentin. Sa m\u00e8re, juive, a fui l&rsquo;Europe  pour l&rsquo;Argentine en 1939. Miguel Benasayag, \u00e9tudiant en m\u00e9decine, s&rsquo;est  joint \u00e0 l&rsquo;ERP (Ejercito Revolucionario Popular, gu\u00e9variste). Apr\u00e8s avoir  particip\u00e9 \u00e0 la lutte arm\u00e9e contre le r\u00e9gime militaire, il est d\u00e9tenu et  tortur\u00e9. Sa double nationalit\u00e9 lui valent une extradition vers la  France au d\u00e9but des ann\u00e9es 80.<br \/>Il a accept\u00e9 de parler avec moi du  choix de la violence arm\u00e9e et de ce qu&rsquo;il implique sur la vie d&rsquo;apr\u00e8s,  sur les enjeux de la m\u00e9moire.<br \/>Bien sur, l&rsquo;Histoire ne se  r\u00e9p\u00e8te pas. Une situation donn\u00e9e ne se reproduit pas 40 ans apr\u00e8s dans  une autre r\u00e9gion du globe. N\u00e9anmoins, l&rsquo;une peut \u00e9clairer l&rsquo;autre.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-white-background-color has-background has-small-padding\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-content-justification-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-buttons-is-layout-fe48e5de wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button has-custom-width wp-block-button__width-50\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-vivid-red-background-color has-text-color has-background\" href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/en\/2020\/02\/28\/le-nez-dans-le-guidon\/\" style=\"border-radius:7px\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">2 minutes pour 3 questions ?<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-black-color has-light-blue-background-color has-text-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:24px\"><em><strong>Pour soutenir le projet Un pass\u00e9 tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9sent, il y a plusieurs fa\u00e7ons que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9taill\u00e9es <a href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/en\/contribuez-au-projet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ICI<\/a>.<\/strong><\/em><br \/><em>N&rsquo;oubliez pas de vous abonner et de fouiller dans le petit bloc ci-dessous pour mettre un petit <strong>\u00ab\u00a0J&rsquo;aime\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong> et un petit partage. <\/em><br \/><em><strong><span class=\"uppercase\">Merci !<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Depuis un temps, je souhaitais parler de mon sujet avec Miguel Benasayag. Il me semblait avoir plusieurs raisons de se saisir de ce sujet (et l&rsquo;a fait avec beaucoup d&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat et de gentillesse, qu&rsquo;il en soit ici remerci\u00e9).Miguel Benasayag est philosophe et psychanalyste. En tant que clinicien, il a pu observ\u00e9 et penser les rapports &#8230; <a title=\"DE QUOI SONT LES FAITS ?\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/en\/de-quoi-sont-les-faits\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about DE QUOI SONT LES FAITS ?\">Read more<\/a><\/p>","protected":false},"author":31877977,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpas_customize_per_network":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[27785,701536491,1001],"tags":[179880,61091,701536611],"class_list":["post-110","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-histoire","category-memoire-et-societe","category-politique","tag-memoire","tag-violences","tag-xxe-siecle"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paCHR7-1M","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1581,"url":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/en\/autre-temps-autres-lieux\/","url_meta":{"origin":110,"position":0},"title":"AUTRES TEMPS, AUTRES LIEUX","author":"Martial Roche","date":"20 January 2020","format":false,"excerpt":"En faisant le tour des archives, hasard des serveurs sur les internets, je suis retomb\u00e9 sur un article vieux de pr\u00e8s de huit ans et distant de plus de 11440 kilom\u00e8tres, \u00e9crit sur un vieux blog o\u00f9 je n'avais plus mis les pieds moi-m\u00eame depuis bien longtemps. 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