{"id":1581,"date":"2020-01-20T18:09:20","date_gmt":"2020-01-20T17:09:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/?p=1581"},"modified":"2020-07-24T11:41:04","modified_gmt":"2020-07-24T09:41:04","slug":"autre-temps-autres-lieux","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/fr_fr\/autre-temps-autres-lieux\/","title":{"rendered":"AUTRES TEMPS, AUTRES LIEUX"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/aladecouvertedubresil.files.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/img_716524320121.jpg?w=1200&#038;h\" alt=\"\"\/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify has-black-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">En faisant le tour des archives, hasard des serveurs sur les internets, je suis retomb\u00e9 sur <a href=\"https:\/\/aladecouvertedubresil.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/25\/dia-de-la-memoria\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">un article vieux de pr\u00e8s de huit ans<\/span><\/a> et distant de plus de 11440 kilom\u00e8tres, \u00e9crit sur un vieux blog o\u00f9 je n&rsquo;avais plus mis les pieds moi-m\u00eame depuis bien longtemps.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify has-black-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Le 24 mars 2012 me trouvait en Argentine, dans la ville provinciale de Mendoza, le jour du Dia de la Memoria. \u00c9tonnamment, depuis que je travaille sur le sujet de la m\u00e9moire, je ne m&rsquo;en \u00e9tais pas souvenu. <br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/OxibmeESghI\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">M\u00eame mon entretien avec Miguel Benasayag<\/span><\/a> ne m&rsquo;y a pas fait repenser (voir l&rsquo;article <a href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/2019\/02\/18\/de-quoi-sont-les-faits\/\"><span style=\"text-decoration:underline;\">De quoi sont les faits ?<\/span><\/a> ), du moins pas au fait que j&rsquo;avais pris la plume \u00e0 cette occasion. Pourtant, \u00e0 mesure que mes souvenirs reviennent, je me rappelle que c&rsquo;est bien avec mes yeux fran\u00e7ais, que j&rsquo;avais vu cette manifestation. S&rsquo;y m\u00ealaient ce que je pensais trouver en Am\u00e9rique du Sud, et en particulier en Argentine. \u00c0 l&rsquo;\u00e9poque, plusieurs dirigeants marqu\u00e9s \u00e0 gauche sont au pouvoir dans des pays du C\u00f4ne Sud de l&rsquo;Am\u00e9rique.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify has-black-color has-text-color has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Depuis, Obama et Castro (Ra\u00f9l) se sont serr\u00e9s la main, Chavez et Castro (Fidel) sont morts, il n&rsquo;y a plus de Kirchner \u00e0 la Casa Rosada et le Br\u00e9sil a \u00e9lu le pr\u00e9occupant Bolsonaro, dont le <a href=\"https:\/\/www.francetvinfo.fr\/culture\/indignation-au-bresil-apres-un-discours-du-ministre-de-la-culture-inspire-de-joseph-goebbels_3789103.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">ministre de la culture vient d&rsquo;\u00eatre r\u00e9voqu\u00e9 apr\u00e8s avoir cit\u00e9 Goebbels.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-layout-flex wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button aligncenter is-style-outline is-style-outline--1\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-black-color has-text-color\" href=\"https:\/\/aladecouvertedubresil.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/25\/dia-de-la-memoria\/\" title=\"https:\/\/aladecouvertedubresil.wordpress.com\/2012\/03\/25\/dia-de-la-memoria\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">lire <br \/>Dia de la memoria<br \/>sur <br \/>Ordem e blogresso<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed-youtube aligncenter wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"&quot;LA SIGNIFICATION DES FAITS CHANGE&quot;\" width=\"1200\" height=\"675\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/OxibmeESghI?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-justify has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Bref, les temps changent&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-group has-white-background-color has-background has-small-padding\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-vertically-aligned-center is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-buttons is-content-justification-center is-layout-flex wp-container-core-buttons-is-layout-fe48e5de wp-block-buttons-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-button has-custom-width wp-block-button__width-50\"><a class=\"wp-block-button__link has-white-color has-vivid-red-background-color has-text-color has-background\" href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/2020\/02\/28\/le-nez-dans-le-guidon\/\" style=\"border-radius:7px\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">2 minutes pour 3 questions ?<\/a><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-left has-black-color has-light-blue-background-color has-text-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:24px\"><em><strong>Pour soutenir le projet Un pass\u00e9 tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9sent, il y a plusieurs fa\u00e7ons que j&rsquo;ai d\u00e9taill\u00e9es <a href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/contribuez-au-projet\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">ICI<\/a>.<\/strong><\/em><br \/><em>N&rsquo;oubliez pas de vous abonner et de fouiller dans le petit bloc ci-dessous pour mettre un petit <strong>\u00ab\u00a0J&rsquo;aime\u00a0\u00bb<\/strong> et un petit partage. <\/em><br \/><em><strong><span class=\"uppercase\">Merci !<\/span><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-group\"><div class=\"wp-block-group__inner-container is-layout-flow wp-block-group-is-layout-flow\">\n\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n<\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>En faisant le tour des archives, hasard des serveurs sur les internets, je suis retomb\u00e9 sur un article vieux de pr\u00e8s de huit ans et distant de plus de 11440 kilom\u00e8tres, \u00e9crit sur un vieux blog o\u00f9 je n&rsquo;avais plus mis les pieds moi-m\u00eame depuis bien longtemps. Le 24 mars 2012 me trouvait en Argentine, &#8230; <a title=\"AUTRES TEMPS, AUTRES LIEUX\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/fr_fr\/autre-temps-autres-lieux\/\" aria-label=\"En savoir plus sur AUTRES TEMPS, AUTRES LIEUX\">Lire la suite<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":31877977,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"_wpas_customize_per_network":false,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[27785,685626844,1001],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1581","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-histoire","category-musees-lieux-de-memoire","category-politique"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/paCHR7-pv","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":326,"url":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/fr_fr\/lyon-lieu-de-memoire\/","url_meta":{"origin":1581,"position":0},"title":"LYON, LIEU DE M\u00c9MOIRE","author":"Martial Roche","date":"27 juin 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Visite au CHRD de Lyon et au m\u00e9morial prison de Montluc. 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Je souhaitais y revenir. Ce s\u00e9jour \u00e0 Lyon, et mon passage dans ce lieu en particulier, m'ont donn\u00e9 \u00e0 penser. La prison de Montluc est pass\u00e9e en 2010 de l'administration p\u00e9nitentiaire \u00e0 la d\u00e9fense, qui a la tutelle sur la m\u00e9moire.\u2026","rel":"","context":"Dans &quot;Histoire&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Histoire","link":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/fr_fr\/category\/histoire\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/unpassetrespresent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/img_20190627_1606277798067105425501435.webp?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/unpassetrespresent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/img_20190627_1606277798067105425501435.webp?resize=350%2C200&ssl=1 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/unpassetrespresent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/img_20190627_1606277798067105425501435.webp?resize=525%2C300&ssl=1 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/unpassetrespresent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/img_20190627_1606277798067105425501435.webp?resize=700%2C400&ssl=1 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/unpassetrespresent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/img_20190627_1606277798067105425501435.webp?resize=1050%2C600&ssl=1 3x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/unpassetrespresent.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/06\/img_20190627_1606277798067105425501435.webp?resize=1400%2C800&ssl=1 4x"},"classes":[]},{"id":547,"url":"https:\/\/unpassetrespresent.com\/fr_fr\/meme-pour-quelques-jours-de-repos\/","url_meta":{"origin":1581,"position":2},"title":"M\u00caME POUR QUELQUES JOURS DE REPOS&#8230;","author":"Martial Roche","date":"12 ao\u00fbt 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Sa bio sur le site de l'ordre de la lib\u00e9ration. 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